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I was watching this show about Yosemite today and there was a segment about the rock climbers that climb Half Dome. It can take them 3 or 4 days. I'm blown away by the grip, arm, back and leg strength they have to have. I also notice how lean and muscular they are. Not huge muscles, but you can tell they are solid and strong. That is real muscle, and real strength over todays steroid produced muscles for show. Functional strength is much more impressive to me.
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their muscles are built for strength and endurance. continued endurance is much better than a muscle that is good for a few moments such as the steroidals. we can readily understand why the likes of atlas and lalanne could perform endurance strength feats that took considerable time while the steroidals are good for only a brief time.
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the steroidals are about looks and nothing else. and the looks aren't good, but they think it is. it's the emperor's new clothes.
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muscular development up to a certain point is useful. beyond that point it is useless, and even detrimental under certain circumstances. excess muscle may be useful to a nfl player. but, we must remember that said player spends most of the game sitting on the bench, playing in short spurts on downs he specializes in. and most of those times he probably doesn't even call on those excess muscles. but they're there the few brief moments in a game he may need them. they work against him if he's on the field long. 2.6 years later he gets put out to pasture where, in most cases, he continues to eat like he did when playing ball, but slacks off in the exercise department, and then he really turns into a behemoth. same goes for pro wrestlers. their excess muscles are never called on as every match is fixed, and every move is rehearsed beforehand. their muscles are for show only. 99.9% of men are never going to be a competition bber, nor a pro-football player, nor a pro wrestler. so there is absolutely no purpose in trying to look like one. that's vanity for sure. it's senseless. the atlas/reeves look is the sensible look. practical to the average man. i'm a renaissance man. i'm interested in too many things to be obsessed with pursuing useless muscle.
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muscular development up to a certain point is useful. beyond that point it is useless, and even detrimental under certain circumstances. excess muscle may be useful to a nfl player. but, we must remember that said player spends most of the game sitting on the bench, playing in short spurts on downs he specializes in. and most of those times he probably doesn't even call on those excess muscles. but they're there the few brief moments in a game he may need them. they work against him if he's on the field long. 2.6 years later he gets put out to pasture where, in most cases, he continues to eat like he did when playing ball, but slacks off in the exercise department, and then he really turns into a behemoth. same goes for pro wrestlers. their excess muscles are never called on as every match is fixed, and every move is rehearsed beforehand. their muscles are for show only. 99.9% of men are never going to be a competition bber, nor a pro-football player, nor a pro wrestler. so there is absolutely no purpose in trying to look like one. that's vanity for sure. it's senseless. the atlas/reeves look is the sensible look. practical to the average man. i'm a renaissance man. i'm interested in too many things to be obsessed with pursuing useless muscle.



Well said. Most people that teach functional strength have you getting in a workout under 30 min. I like Mike Brown's if you are spending over 1 hr. working out you are wasting your time.

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you guys make coming to this forum very interesting. thanks.
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i believe in having a muscled up body after the order of atlas/reeves. you can have what we're talking about and still look like you can kick butt, and atlas, reeves, grimek, et al are examples of what i mean. a coleman build could create the impression in an assailant's mind that the person is slow moving and slow thinking enough that he could get whipped and therefore not deter an attack. otoh, an atlas or reeves build would tell the assailant the guy has power and the ability to bring it to action in a speedy manner and therefore he'll be more inclined to not mess with him. imo. personally i wouldn't mess with a coleman. i wouldn't want to put my theory to the test. well anyway, in my philosophy, appearance takes the back seat to performance. not that appearance isn't important, otherwise it wouldn't matter to me if one looked like coleman. i don't think men should be beautiful, but i do think they should be handsome. i lost my train of thought, so i'll quit.
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you lost your train of thought? welcome to my world.
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yeah. the union went on strike for higher wages, so the railroad went out of business.
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rock climbers are some tough dudes and dudettes! their grip strength/endurance is phenomenal, especially their pinch grip strength/endurance. they have outrageous pinch grip strength. a lot of their strength and builds comes from all of the isometrics they perform, as well from the climbing. they are tensed pretty much the entire time over their whole body. plus, their entire body works in unisom, as it's susposed to. that is one of the reasons that you see kickboxers and boxers built the way they are, from the constant tension their bodies are under. they have that functional build as in comparison to rock climbers with no wasted muscle. mas oyama, one of the greatest karate fighters and instructors ever, said that all that extra meat was useless on a cow and it was also useless on fighters, too. now, football players, especially down lineman need the extra bulk for pushing, but they also have a lot of needless mass as well. the more muscles you have, the more it interferes with performance. like the defensive backs and wide receivers have no wasted muscle whatsoever, as do the running backs, for the most part. could you see a big down lineman dong rock climbing? how about coleman? their bodies are way too big to do so, as they have too much needless mass that gets in the way. now, wide receivers, defensive backs and offensive backs would make good mountain climbers, as they don't have a lot of wasted muscle. a lot of people equate more mass with more strength, which is wrong. a reeves and atlas build are perfect examples of athletic builds that allow the individual to compete in any type of athletic event due to no wasted and bloated muscle. even reg park was too big for certain activities, unlike reeves and atlas. reg park would not make the same rock climber as would reeves and atlas, as he has a lot of extra mass to pack around, making it more difficult for him to climb and also making the endurance aspect of the event that much harder on him to sustain due to the extra mass and weight. big muscles interferes with punching and movement also, which is why you don't see muscle bound dudes in boxing or kickboxing. sure, they have muscles, but none is wasted and it's all functional as well. you need no more muscle than what is naturally required. mike tyson was the only muscle bound-like dude that ever had any success in fighting, but he didn't really have any wasted muscle. he was naturally genetically gifted for muscles anyways, even when he was a kid. you can still lift heavy weights and not get big, it just depends on how you lift and also eat. if you do low reps and never go to failure, keeping a couple of reps shy of failure, you won't get big, but you'll get inhumanly strong. that is how you see a lot of the lower weight class powerlifters lifting huge weights without getting bigger. they have absolutely no wasted muscle and they are strong! look at gymnasts, for example. no wasted muscle whatsoever there and they are functionally strong as all get out. the only way someone like coleman could hurt you ina fight, is if he got hold of you, then he could probably tear you into little pieces, but as far as punching power goes, it wouldn't really be there even if he could hit you, as his muscles would negate a lot of his power that would be there otherwise, plus, they would slow him down considerably. if an atlas, a reeves or a grimek or even park hit you, you'd know it! plus, they could catch you if you tried to run, hehe!
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